tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4716894977482967985.post1010183820339141252..comments2024-03-27T20:34:04.805-04:00Comments on Georgia Girl With An English Heart: Plaid or Tartan?Kay G.http://www.blogger.com/profile/07228498846814735537noreply@blogger.comBlogger49125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4716894977482967985.post-82726263672102503562016-02-01T22:47:31.023-05:002016-02-01T22:47:31.023-05:00"The untrue occurrence becomes accepted fact&..."The untrue occurrence becomes accepted fact"...ah, you see, it is up to people like US to set the world straight! Don't be fearful of not being an expert, just tell it like it is, my friend. Kay G.https://www.blogger.com/profile/07228498846814735537noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4716894977482967985.post-30451625434028259332016-01-30T06:35:18.001-05:002016-01-30T06:35:18.001-05:00Hi Kay,
one of the reasons I didn't do it was...Hi Kay,<br /> one of the reasons I didn't do it was that it was so complicated and requires an in depth professional knowledge I don't have. For instance in Braveheart the Scots are all wearing kilts whereas foot soldiers of that time wore identical heavy multi layered long outfits of monotone bland colour that matched the English troops as tartan is rubbish at keeping out arrows and they weren't stupid and wanted to live to fight another day. Also both sides were made up of different factions. Many Scots fought with the English troops as just like our last referendum the country was divided when picking sides.(Obviously no use for a film promoting a united front.)<br />It's something that happens every day all over the world and the untrue occurrence becomes accepted fact to most of the population. " Tell a lie often enough and that becomes the truth" Quote from many a crafty politician in the last 4000 years.<br />There is an amusing but historically accurate programme on here called "QI" with Stephen Fry that runs something along the lines of "everything you think you know about anything is probably false but what someone wished you to believe." The recent recession and the deliberate mess that is the Middle East are perfect examples that it's still going on.blueskyscotlandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09373718369702364265noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4716894977482967985.post-84098291549716314212016-01-28T20:51:05.079-05:002016-01-28T20:51:05.079-05:00I always find that most things are much more compl...I always find that most things are much more complex than people think and don't fit into the "sound bites" that are so popular on TV. <br />Thanks for your comment here. If you want to do a post yourself, then please do so! I grant you my royal permission! HA HA, like I am royal or something, that is funny. :-) Kay G.https://www.blogger.com/profile/07228498846814735537noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4716894977482967985.post-54974302536185909412016-01-28T20:46:31.497-05:002016-01-28T20:46:31.497-05:00Ha! I knew it! :-)Ha! I knew it! :-)Kay G.https://www.blogger.com/profile/07228498846814735537noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4716894977482967985.post-19418966484443524762016-01-27T07:33:01.032-05:002016-01-27T07:33:01.032-05:00I've looked into the history of Tartan/Plaid m...I've looked into the history of Tartan/Plaid myself as I was going to do a post on it years ago. The basic pattern came from Ireland originally as they used to wrap their dead in checked cloth but it did not have much colour in it. Up until relatively recently Scottish clans could only tell each other apart by their war cries and they had to wear a sprig of heather/Rushes/other plant that only grew in their area at formal meetings between each other. After Tartan was banned for many years, the clan system smashed and the unruly and often violent Highland chieftains were dragged off in chains to swear loyalty to the crown the British Government eventually relented and they were allowed to wear tartan again once they had been broken and properly tamed or moved overseas. No longer hostile or dangerous to the power of the day the romantic idea of the "noble highlander" was born for the tourist industry promoted by Sir Walter Scott in his highly popular books and Queen Victoria and Prince Albert when they built Balmoral and created a love of all things "highland" as rich folk in England and the Scottish lowlands copied them and bought large hunting estates(who along with lowland Scot and London tailors created all the clan colours we see today in the Victorian era as it made them a fortune.) Remaining Clan chiefs then sent their sons to Eton and Cambridge, realizing this was the way forward, and still do today.<br />This is the unpalatable truth that most of the stuff we take for granted today is an establishment invention for the Victorian tourist industry and sporting estates. Oh, and William Wallace never went anywhere near the Scottish Highlands if he could help it. He came from the lowlands near Paisley(or Ayrshire) and never entered the real highlands as they would have kicked his ass. A bit like Afghan warlords today they were too unpredictable and had their own agendas. Most of the highland stuff we accept as genuine today is a recent myth including the famous two handed broadsword W.W. is supposed to have used. The real truth is out there and very easy to find online for anyone interested. There was also a good "Tony Robinson" programme recently which said much the same thing that might be on You Tube. The myth is probably too well established though and folk never like the true version of events :o)blueskyscotlandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09373718369702364265noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4716894977482967985.post-85380136708548703632016-01-27T07:09:22.379-05:002016-01-27T07:09:22.379-05:00What a wonderful book to own, and that it was hand...What a wonderful book to own, and that it was handed down to you! I figured it would be the same way in Australia, you are very much more like the Brits in the language! :-)Kay G.https://www.blogger.com/profile/07228498846814735537noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4716894977482967985.post-8057968962770975122016-01-27T07:07:52.571-05:002016-01-27T07:07:52.571-05:00Lynn, I hoped you would see this post! If you look...Lynn, I hoped you would see this post! If you look at the explanation from Wikipedia, you saying "plaid" for your pretty bed cover is exactly right!<br />Also, I hope you read the story of James Clerk Maxwell, he is one fascinating person. I might have to do a post about him!<br />In all my years of visiting Stone Mountain, I have never been to the Highland Games, maybe I will one day and see you there! :-)Kay G.https://www.blogger.com/profile/07228498846814735537noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4716894977482967985.post-21327174093796168232016-01-27T05:54:52.539-05:002016-01-27T05:54:52.539-05:00I have a Maxwell tartan scarf that I wear two time...I have a Maxwell tartan scarf that I wear two times every year - at my church's Kirking of the Tartans service in February and at my clan's tent at the Stone Mountain Highland games in October. I think of the tartan as something you wear or display that proclaims your heritage, but the plaid on my new comforter is just a plaid pattern. :) Lynnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13984802196897920610noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4716894977482967985.post-6836551839364455462016-01-27T05:41:22.131-05:002016-01-27T05:41:22.131-05:00'Tis called tartan here, too. I'm of Scot...'Tis called tartan here, too. I'm of Scots/Irish heritage. I also have a wonderful little book that was handed down to me by my grandmother...and it consists of all the Scottish clans and the tartans, with the history attached.Leehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15835982875620956300noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4716894977482967985.post-33548290101692674302016-01-26T23:32:05.656-05:002016-01-26T23:32:05.656-05:00Alright, I give. Yes I call it plaid.Alright, I give. Yes I call it plaid.Emma Springfieldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10543689047463574012noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4716894977482967985.post-8686761767834536352016-01-26T20:29:11.625-05:002016-01-26T20:29:11.625-05:00Pop or soda? Ha! In the south, we just called ever...Pop or soda? Ha! In the south, we just called everything "coke"!<br />Never heard of green peppers as mangos, that's funny!Kay G.https://www.blogger.com/profile/07228498846814735537noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4716894977482967985.post-91694708240869163842016-01-26T20:27:50.654-05:002016-01-26T20:27:50.654-05:00I notice that your English language is much more l...I notice that your English language is much more like the Brits than what we have done with it in America!<br />Thanks for your comment, I don't know if you have visited me before. You are welcome here anytime! I have a great wish to see both Australia and New Zealand. Even if I don't get to, I enjoy seeing the people's blogs from there! Kay G.https://www.blogger.com/profile/07228498846814735537noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4716894977482967985.post-26078869637803895932016-01-26T20:24:58.619-05:002016-01-26T20:24:58.619-05:00So much pleasure, you told me twice! HA! I sometim...So much pleasure, you told me twice! HA! I sometimes have double commented, not sure why! Now, you MAKE sure you WALK up there, double time, MISSY! HA!!<br />Very happy to see your comment here, Pat, hope you are well! Hope to get to Stone Mountain soon. Maybe we will meet one day, and will look at that shelf of whiskies on the TARTAN cloth together! (Who knows we might just drink some of them! Cheers!!)Kay G.https://www.blogger.com/profile/07228498846814735537noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4716894977482967985.post-18772897852807959672016-01-26T20:22:13.399-05:002016-01-26T20:22:13.399-05:00I am happy to know that I am correct in Hawaii! :-...I am happy to know that I am correct in Hawaii! :-)Kay G.https://www.blogger.com/profile/07228498846814735537noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4716894977482967985.post-62947742477781920802016-01-26T19:42:05.373-05:002016-01-26T19:42:05.373-05:00Here in Australia it is called Tartan and also in ...Here in Australia it is called Tartan and also in New Zealand where I was born.Vickyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12831474270137969286noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4716894977482967985.post-15823988197554470682016-01-26T09:55:21.969-05:002016-01-26T09:55:21.969-05:00This post has given me so much pleasure to read. S...This post has given me so much pleasure to read. So many different thoughts on the same subject. Personally I would go with Adullamite - I would explain tartan/plaid the same way. We are down in Sussex at the beginning of March and will drink to you both in the Pub at Beachy Head. I have been off-line for a bit but am now back and looking forward to a virtual walk with you up Stone Mountain. Spesh 1https://www.blogger.com/profile/07044378302911602273noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4716894977482967985.post-69641645396689373322016-01-26T09:39:51.271-05:002016-01-26T09:39:51.271-05:00We call it plaid in Hawaii, too.We call it plaid in Hawaii, too.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4716894977482967985.post-85487865009862751132016-01-26T09:38:42.825-05:002016-01-26T09:38:42.825-05:00This post has given me so much pleasure to read. S...This post has given me so much pleasure to read. So many different thoughts on the same subject. Personally I would go with Adullamite - I would explain tartan/plaid the same way. We are down in Sussex at the beginning of March and will drink to you both in the Pub at Beachy Head. I have been off-line for a bit but am now back and looking forward to a virtual walk with you up Stone Mountain. Spesh 1https://www.blogger.com/profile/07044378302911602273noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4716894977482967985.post-9884848345376226182016-01-26T08:50:28.402-05:002016-01-26T08:50:28.402-05:00Even in the USA we have different names for things...Even in the USA we have different names for things. My Father-in-law called green peppers mangos! Then there's the "pop" verses "soda" thing. Your pics are lovely!yayahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12047536332780197024noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4716894977482967985.post-68176389639096131402016-01-26T07:13:34.660-05:002016-01-26T07:13:34.660-05:00And also, you know when you cut your hair over you...And also, you know when you cut your hair over your eyes and we call it having "bangs" but over there, it is a "fringe"! Married to a Brit even after 32 years, it still amuses me to learn of the different words we have for the same thing!Kay G.https://www.blogger.com/profile/07228498846814735537noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4716894977482967985.post-36576796512804369612016-01-26T07:04:15.526-05:002016-01-26T07:04:15.526-05:00I think the word plaid is older, but have no idea ...I think the word plaid is older, but have no idea why I think this....There were so many Scottish and Scotch-Irish settlers to the American colonies early (some of my own ancestors among them) and I think they brought the word plaid with them. Now my skittish mind has jumped over to thinking why I hear the the hairstyle for little girls called "braids" here and often "plaits" in UK books. Ah, the world is a puzzling place!Thickethouse.wordpresshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17187303460677067276noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4716894977482967985.post-6008081946480787122016-01-25T22:01:37.684-05:002016-01-25T22:01:37.684-05:00Oh, and you know, it just occurred to me...most Am...Oh, and you know, it just occurred to me...most Americans would pronounce tartan like this...tart-en, with the middle "t" being very soft or almost non existent...therefore, PLAID is much easier for us to say! (My Dad called his mother "Ma".)<br />LOVED Little House on the Prairie! xxKay G.https://www.blogger.com/profile/07228498846814735537noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4716894977482967985.post-37044373437967830882016-01-25T21:57:27.990-05:002016-01-25T21:57:27.990-05:00There are so many words that we say differently th...There are so many words that we say differently that almost every day I am surprised by something. Just recently, I learned this...what do you call it when you feed a baby and then, you pat the baby's back? We say we "burp" the baby, but I think you say "wind" the baby! Oh well, as long as the baby gets rid of the excess gas, everyone will be happy! :-)Kay G.https://www.blogger.com/profile/07228498846814735537noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4716894977482967985.post-58908765895654664602016-01-25T21:52:11.681-05:002016-01-25T21:52:11.681-05:00No, Nan, that is not a dumb question at all. Thos...No, Nan, that is not a dumb question at all. Those are called "groynes" or "breakers" and they are there to keep the beach intact, they are part of the sea defences. (I would spell that "defenses" but in England, it is spelled with a "c"!) If you saw the photos of the beaches in New Jersey from this past weekend, you will see what a very good idea they are!<br />(And they are spaced fairly far apart, this photo makes them look as if they are close together...if you look back at some of my earlier posts, you can see this better.)Kay G.https://www.blogger.com/profile/07228498846814735537noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4716894977482967985.post-36442108539289244342016-01-25T21:47:43.192-05:002016-01-25T21:47:43.192-05:00Mmmm...so your comment does not help me understand...Mmmm...so your comment does not help me understand the difference between plaid or tartan!!<br />And thanks for your comment, by the way, I think you must be a new visitor to my blog!Kay G.https://www.blogger.com/profile/07228498846814735537noreply@blogger.com